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- From: niv@thamiw.slac.stanford.edu.slac.stanford.edu (Marvin Weinstein)
- Subject: Re: Problem with Mui 3.3
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- Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 22:22:29 GMT
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- In article <ekrieger.20s2@quasar.xs4all.nl> ekrieger@quasar.xs4all.nl (Eric Krieger) writes:
- > Innovision Concepts Limited (keith@innov.demon.co.uk) wrote (on Tue, 12 Mar 96 08:43:32 GMT):
- >
- > > EK> > I just installed my new MUI 3.3 over 3.2, with my new key.
- >
- > > EK> Copied 3.3 *over* 3.2? You should have renamed the 3.2 directory to
- > > EK> another name, and create a new MUI directory instead, or better use
- > > EK> the Installer script (which does it for you!).
- >
- > > Sounds like that is what he already did - he did say INSTALLED, not COPIED!
- >
- > No, I don't think so. He did say installed, but I'm pretty sure that
- > he didn't mean that he used the Installer-script. Unpacking an
- > archive and copying it to a place on your system and configuring it
- > (by hand) could also be meant by installing.
- >
- >
- > > I had a similar problem with 3.2 - installed EXACTLY as per the
- > > installer, but the stuff still crashed. After days of people telling
- > > me "You must use the installer" and "delete any muimaster libraries
- > > in libs: 'cos they must only be in MUI:libs" the answer finally
- > > arrived in the form of a bugfix library from Stefan of AmiNET - yes,
- > > there WAS a bug (or bugs) in 3.2! Ah well...
- >
- > OK, the orginal 3.2 version did have some severe problems, but not
- > 3.3 (haven't "caught" one yet and I use MUI applications every day
- > intensively). So you won't see the problems *you* had with 3.2.
- >
- > But it is known that a lot of people are copying the libraries by
- > hand, which could/would cause problems, in such a way that the
- > libraries cannot be found, so the user copies/moves the libraries to
- > the SYS:Libs directory (wrong move; they most probably forgot to add
- > a proper "Assign Libs: MUI:Libs ADD" to their Startup-files).
- >
- > But why wouldn't you use the Installer-script/program? Why would
- > someone install MUI by hand (it is possible, but you must know what
- > you're doing)?
- >
- >
- > > EK> Obviously you have either old libraries somewhere on your disk or
- > > EK> memory,
- >
- > > Then why the hell does MUI not helpfully report that it is finding an
- > > old library?
- >
- > I don't know if it is the *task* of MUI to report this.... depends
- > on the "caller" of the library in question. It could be the *task*
- > of the application itself.
- >
- > But you're right; it should be more informative to the (end)user!
- >
- >
- > > I guess what I am saying is that it seems that people assume that any
- > > problem is due to poor installation - this is not always the case, and
- > > a little bit of decent error reporting from MUI would certainly help.
- >
- > Certainly. But the original person (hankduckman) reported that he
- > had installed some MUI libraries in SYS:Libs, now that is not correct
- > (so the assumption of the "poor installation" is made with pretty
- > strong "evidence"; but please tell me if if I'm wrong).
- >
- >
- > > BTW, what difference is there between 3.3 and 3.2+bugfix? Just want
- > > to know if I need to upgrade again.
- >
- > Some (good) bugfixes, so yes my advise would be to upgrade again.
- >
- >
- > From "MUI:Docs/Changes":
- >
- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
- > Version 3.3 (22-Feb-96) (muimaster.library V14.106)
- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
- >
- > * MINOR SASG UPDATE *
- >
- > Changes for users:
- >
- > - Help bubbles no longer block an application.
- >
- > - Fixed refresh bug of prop gadgets in virtual groups.
- >
- > - Fixed ARexx command INFO SCREEN.
- >
- > - MUI could crash after disposing an application when ARexx was used.
- >
- > - Fixed refresh of color wheels.
- >
- > - Fixed crash when using Coloradjust objects with Kick 2.x.
- >
- > - Fixed double redraw after window resize.
- >
- >
- >
- > Regards,
- > --
- > | Eric Krieger : ekrieger@quasar.xs4all.nl | Fido-Net: 2:285/1.10 |
- > | Q U A S A R : Last Point of Endless Time | AmigaNet: 39:102/1.21 |
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-
- Unfortunately there are many Web-sites with forms that still crash
- Amosaic. I don't know who owns the bug but it still happens.
- It is true that things are mostly more stable with MUI3.3, but
- rock-solid it ain't.
-
-
-
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